Hi, as many of you will know, I am a Manson fan. I have found a particularly abhorrent page basically insulting him. This page is riddled with innacuracies. Let me show you.
"however, God does HATE sin" This is ridiculous. This so called God character is supposedly all forgiving, therefore the notion of him hating someone should not be contemplated. This John Lee Clary guys is the real evil one.
"A true Christian will stand against what Marilyn Manson advocates." A true moron won't realise it's just music. Also, christians should allow people to put across their views, it's all about forgiveness.
"He is actually a recruiter for the Church of Satan" This is quite frankly absurd. He is a Satanist, but say he's a recruiter is like saying "Let's kill the Arch Bishop of Canterbury, he's a recruiter for the Church of England." I think the John guys is just and easily offended wanna be freedom fighter/ terrorist.
"Manson began worshipping LaVey from the time he was a teenager." Proving it's a genuine beliefe and not just publicity. People can believe what they like. Redneck.
I feel at this point the JLC is the former leader of the KKK. Just so you know.
"It tries to explain the reason Manson hates Christians so much by telling a lie of how Brian was rejected by a youth group at a church Christian school he attended while he was a teenager." Maybe he was going to get redemption, he wanted to change and turned to the group for support. Here is a related quote from earlier in the page: "Even Manson can be saved IF he will repent and turn from his wicked ways" See, for god's sake (sorry, was that "blasphemy"?) you're such a bloody hypocrite.
"It says that since he looked and dressed differently than the other teenagers that attended the school and church, they wanted nothing to do with him, so he turned to Satanism. WRONG! This story is deceiving as it leaves out a lot of important details. The fact of the matter was that Brian Warner used to show up at church dressed in black garb and wearing Satanic t-shirts. He used to try to intimidate the other teenagers by telling them things like "Satan Rules" etc., etc. He would give them the Satanic sign and tell them that the Devil was God. He also admitted to being a homosexual as well as a child-molester, and propositioned several teenagers at the church to try to entice them into having sex with him." Maybe this is because, due to lack of good parents etc, he felt neglected and attention seeking. Let's face it, plenty of kids wear black nowadays, wear badges etc with stuff like '666' on them, but it DOESNT MAKE THEM EVIL
"Brian Warner later changed his name to "Marilyn Manson"" Wrong, it's just a stage persona that sounds better than 'Brian Warner'.
"formed a band with other transvestite homosexuals" Oh, so you're racist and homophobic, this just gets better and better.
"Manson began to record CD's , and recorded one called "Antichrist Superstar", in which he says some of the most blasphemous things that can ever be said against Jesus Christ." Yet again, you take something too seriously and make it sound ridiculous. IF you had a rational argument, fair enough but it's anyones choice what religion they are. Also, Antichrist Superstar is a wonderful epic piece of musical archiutecture. When you can make something better, then sure, slag it off, but until then shut up (do please note, redneck acoustic country crap is in no way better).
"Manson, began burning Holy Bibles in his concerts, and giving "alter calls" for Satan, by encouraging kids to reject Jesus Christ, and accept Satan into their hearts and minds, as well as accepting Manson as the Antichrist. He tells them to chant in unison, F#ck the Holy Spirit and F#ck Jesus Christ. It is quite possible that Manson has committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is the only sin that is UNFORGIVABLE. Marilyn Manson could have crossed the line with that one. Only God Himself knows if he is beyond redemption, by making those chants. God will judge him on this but we have a right to make a right judgment to take a stand against him and expose his fruitless deeds of darkness." Yet again, it's his choice. If people want to listen to his music, go to his concerts or whatever, then fine. It's not your problem. It's hardly like I want to listen to KKK songs such as 'Let's go burn a ghetto' and 'I want black blood on my hands' but I'm sure you love them. This reformed character is just a front and you're just in it for the money. After all, it's ard to reconise someone under a pointy hood.
"This web site would never endorse Courtney Love or her music, but in this case we say, "Good On Ya, Courtney!"" I'm sorry, I would love you to talk to me about this, but it seems your mouth is too full of hypocratic shit to speak properly.
"I notice that Manson advocates suicide and tells young people to do it, but he fails to lead by example! If Hell is so great and suicide is the solution to life's problems as Manson says, then why doesn't he set the example?" Because he has to spread the word, just like in christianity. I would say Satanism is quite similar.
"Why is it OK for Manson to tell teenagers to kill themselves but he would not set the example? Think about it young people!" This is making the assumption that all manson fans are stupid. You've already said he's a metal artist, but you seemed to have him now mistaken for a country artist. How could you do this? As we all know, country music is like the voice of god himself.
"This was an unconfirmed rumor, but Marilyn Manson supposedly had his bottom two ribs removed, so that he can perform oral-sex on himself." Ouch! The word unconfirmed just reached out and pulled my hair! Did you not notice it? Also, to be honest, if it is true, he has his own life. You have had time to write an awful lot about someone you hate, proving that you don't. Jelous?
"Twiggy Rameriez , one of Manson's band members was arrested for molesting a little boy." Aww, was the idea of the singer and guitarist not being one person too much for you, country boy? Shame. THIS ISN'T MARYLIN!!! Genius.
"Manson and Twiggy have frequently kissed and fondled each other at concerts. Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor of satanic band "Nine Inch Nails" had sexual intercourse." Look away kids! I think these people might be gay! OMG! How horrific.
"Marilyn Manson told many that he had gotten breast-implants, but that he later had them removed. He had posed for a photo showing himself with breast, but he no longer has them now. See photo below." They are for a photo shoot. It's called a costume and although it's not a demin jacket, it's still not real. Amazing, eh?
"His favorite author's include Anton LaVey, Freidrick Nietzsche, Aliester Crowley, Charles Darwin and Roald Dahl." Oh, jesus christ! Not such evil men as Roald Dahl! He wrote such Satanic texts as 'Fantastic Mr. Fox'! Satan save us!! I can however see why you are jelous of Charles Darwin, if I hadn't evolved beyond a frog, I'd be jelous too.
"As a child, Manson was tested by the American government because his father Hugh, a Vietnam War vet, sprayed the deforestation substance Agent Orange, which caused birth defects in a substantial number of the children born to parents who were exposed to the virulent chemical. When they were called in for testing, Manson and his dad met other vets, and their children, some of whom had prosthetic limbs, which inspired him to collect them, in later years. " At least he doesn't collect pointy hoods.
"Like his namesake, Charles Manson, Marilyn Manson was also born in Ohio." What an evil man! Because, obviously, he chose where to be born. Disgusting, eh?
"Marilyn's father used to carry a nude photo of Twiggy in his wallet." Oh! So he was from a family of homose- no, wait a second...
"A common speculation of the song Misery Machine's line, "We're gonna ride to the Abby of Thelema," is that it is a reference to the Scooby-Doo character Thelma. Thelema was actually the name of the temple Aleister Crowley established in Italy, before his expulsion from the country by dictator Benito Mussolini. " This evil man! He watches cartoons!
"As a child, Marilyn would play near the butcher's shop which was across the street from his parent's home. He once found an aborted baby in a coffee can behind the building. " As I said in earlier defence, he may have had a troubled childhood. I think you may have proved it.
"Manson has taken the cross of Jesus and defecated on it while on stage.
Manson has urinated on pictures of Jesus, during his concerts." Not that I would ever urinate or defacate on stage, but hey, these people knew what they were in for when they brought the tickets. It's not like they were forced. Yet more differences between Marylin Manson and country music.
"Manson has encouraged the teenagers in the audience to commit acts of sodomy, and lesbianism." Oh god no! That's not straight. What a joke.
At this point on the page, there is an image of Warner in costume. What a pervert eh!? They don't even cover his nipples! Naturally, he dresses like this all the time, and not only on stage!
"He has claimed he has smoked human bones. It's in his biography pages 196-198. He and Twiggy went to a grave yard and picked up some bones they found and carried them in a plastic bag telling those who questioned that they were the remains of their old drummer Freddy (though they were unknown bones). One night they got bored because they didn't have any beer so they cut off a part of a rib and put it in a pipe and smoked it. They invited two girls to try it who eventually got sick and had to leave. Twiggy spent the night vomiting and Manson was caught up in his own little dream world pretending that he was obsessed by an old Baptist Minister. " I hope he smokes your bones. The sooner the better.
At this point there is a picture from the inside of Antichrist Superstar which "shows Manson urinating through tubes while his band members drink his urine." As everyone knows, this would be impossible to photograph if it didn't actually happen. I mean, how could you possibly suck air from a tube?
"In his "Holy Wood" CD, he mocks the crucifixion of Christ, by appearing on it's cover "nailed" to a cross. He commits more blasphemy by calling this, "Jesus Rotting On A Cross." The songs such as "Born Again" and "Lamb of God" are full of hateful blasphemy. " How dare he not be the same religion as you! It's foul! Everyone should be white and christian, shouldn't they?
"Just like the K.K.K., Manson burns crosses." You'd know all about that wouldn't you.
"On Thursday, November 11, Marilyn Manson performed live on the MTV European Video Music Awards in Dublin, Ireland for an estimated 1 billion viewers. In regard to his third VMA appearance Manson had this to say, “It was rather ironic that teenage girls with breast implants and rappers with violent and misogynistic lyrics spent the whole night thanking Jesus Christ of all people. It is clearly by unchristian means that these alleged “friends of God” have made their millions so I chose a more honest way to say thanks.”" Oh dear! Now he's telling the truth. Tut tut, what are we gonna do with you Marylin?
"Manson, whose nearly nude torso was painted jet black, sang “Rock is Dead” to a somewhat mortified audience. People were actually seen turning their backs to the stage as Manson’s TV crucifix burst into flames. " You mean he wasn't making them watch? Amazing, that makes me, a Manson fan, right! jesus christ!
"Parents, this is what YOUR children are listening to when they have this freaks cd's in their possession. I was recently at a Christian school and I asked for a show of hands of students who listened to Manson's music or had his cd's in their possession and about 75% of their hands went up." To think people listen to his music! Just shows how unpopular he is.
"Well the Rev., says, " Take those cd's, lay them out on the floor, take a hammer, and whack those cd's until they are in little bitty tiny pieces, and then mail those pieces straight to Manson telling him you want nothing more to do with him or his music."" Fun fact: None of them listened, because they are independant people who can make their own decisions and are black mailed as much by music as they are by some moron telling them what he says is right because he likes god!
"It is against God's Holy Word to listen to Marilyn Manson, as God's Word says in Philippians 4:8, "Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy,-think about such things."" Yes, that doesn't mean you shouldn't think about others, just not all the time.
"Parent's , if your teenager will not do this on their own, then YOU take the proper leadership role in your home and do it for them! You have every right to do this according to God's Word in Joshua 24:15 "AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!"" I thought this was a bigoted hypocritical attack on Manson, not parents. Am I missing something?
"Parents, Manson has not only told the teenagers to commit suicide, but he has encouraged them to take knives and hack their parents to death while they are sleeping, or to take a gun and murder their parents , or kill their parents in anyway that they can." And of course, the KKK would never incite violence. Seriously thought, this is so true! Look how many orphanages spring up each year! Naturally it's all the kid's fault. Basically what this guy is saying is that Manson is to blame for all the orphanages. The idiots that actually listen to him are clearly all murderers.
"In 1987, The Southern Poverty Law Center successfully sued the United Klans of America and received a judgment in the amount of 7 million dollars, on behalf of the mother of Michael Donald, a black man that was murdered by members of the U.K.A. The jury found that the Klan was responsible for the actions of it's members. This brought an end to that fraction of the Klan. The Southern Poverty Law Center in 1989, again successfully sued on behalf of another family of a murdered black man, another Klan type organization, WAR, which stands for White Aryan Resistance. A jury found it's leader Tom Metzger responsible for the action of it's members, which were skinheads who beat a black man to death with baseball bats. Metzger and WAR had a 12 million dollar judgment levied against them, forcing Tom Metzger to lose everything he had including his house. Metzger had to live in a van down by the river for awhile. WHY NOT USE THE SAME TACTICS AND SUE MANSON FOR THE DEATHS OF THE CHILDREN AT COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL IN LITTLETON, COLORADO? The two who did the killings before killing themselves, Eric Harris, and Dylan Klebold, where both followers of Marilyn Manson, and ran down the halls screaming "Marilyn Manson rules!" while they were shooting their classmates. They were heavily influenced by Manson, and listened to his music all the time. If the K.K.K. and W.A.R can be held responsible for these deaths, then Manson should be held responsible for the Columbine deaths, as well as all the teenagers who have either overdosed on drugs, or have committed suicide from listening to Manson." There's a difference between Klan members and Manson fans. There's also such a thing as making an example. What about the vadt majority of Manson fans who are just normal kids.
"WHAT YOU CAN DO TO STOP MANSON
WE MUST NOT SIT BACK AND ALLOW THIS DEMONIC BEHAVIOR FROM THE PITS OF HELL TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITIES ANY LONGER!
I SAY THAT WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP MARILYN MANSON OUT OF OUR CITIES WHEN HE TRIES TO COME TO OUR TOWNS, BECAUSE THIS IS FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR CHILDREN!
Some people have written us and advocated doing something illegal to stop him. Some say it would be so easy for someone to go to his concert and shoot him while he is on stage giving his alter calls for Satan, then get "lost" in the crowd, and chances are they would probably never get caught, but I am telling you that would it not be right to take Manson's life away from him, and also it would only land the shooter time in jail if he got caught. No one should take a chance on throwing their freedom away by doing something like that. Manson is not worth you going to prison over.
The way to deal with Manson is this: THE POWER TO STOP MANSON IS IN THE HANDS OF CHRISTIANS. Imagine if the church would unite! Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists, ect, could all work together to stop this madman from coming into their communities to hold his satanic concerts! For instance, if all the community churches or even some of them would get a few thousand Christians together and converge upon the managers and owners of the convention centers and concert halls that rent them to Manson, and demand that they cancel his contract, this would be effective. Pastors could speak on behalf of the citizens that have assembled and let the managers know that they will boycott their businesses and put them out of business personally, by publicizing their names and the ones who rented out the concert hall to Manson. They could let them know in no uncertain terms that they will hold them personally responsible. Then they could visit all sponsors, advertisers, and places of business that do business with the convention center and urge them to drop all advertising and support from any event put on in that concert hall. This would make the managers think twice about renting their halls to Manson. Also the same march and demonstration could take place right to the local politicians and they could be urged by the VOTING citizens of the community to put pressure on the managers and owners of the concert halls not to rent to Manson. This same tactic can also be done in your local CD shops to get them to stop selling Manson's Cd's.
"Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here?" (Num. 32:6)
ACT NOW! The future of our children depends on you!" There you go again. The bible is a work of fiction. Qoting from it is like me defending Manson by saying 'Mr. and Mrs. Dursely of number 4 Privet Dirve were proud to say that they were perfectly normal thankyou very much" It has no effect. Also, just bye saying that a store sells Manson CDs isn't going to make people go, "Well, naturally, there must be Satanic corruption on this Alicia Keys CD. I musn't bye it." Fool. The same applies to concert venues.
"Manson, an ordained "reverend" in the Church of Satan, mutilates himself on stage (1 Kings 18:28), rips-up the Holy Bible, and spews "blasphemies" against the Lord Jesus Christ. Manson’s T-Shirts declare, "KILL YOUR PARENTS" & "I LOVE SATAN". One of Manson's album is titled Anti-Christ Superstar, Manson claims Antichrist Superstar came via "supernatural-inspiration":
"I heard this album as finished, I heard it in dreams . . . It was like the revelations of John the Baptist or something." (huH, Oct. 1996, p.34)
Manson’s "hope" for Antichrist Superstar,:
"I think every time people listen to this new album maybe God will be destroyed in their heads. . ." (huH, Oct. 1996, p.37)
Manson’s "blasphemy" is not just an act. Manson readily admits there's more to the show than meets the eye:
I don’t know if anyone has really understood what we’re trying to do. This isn’t just about shock value . . . that’s just there to lure the people in. Once we’ve got ‘em we can give ‘em our MESSAGE. (Hit Parader, Oct. 1996, p.28)
Manson admits his childhood longing for Satan:
My mom used to tell me when I was a kid, ‘If you curse at nighttime, the devil’s going to come to you when you’re sleeping.’ I used to get excited because I really wanted it to happen . . . I wanted it. I wanted it more than anything . . .(Rolling Stone, January, 23, 1997 p.52)" Eugh, okay, you've convinced me. He's clearly not a Christian. Once you get past that which you could do if you weren't a racist then you're done!
What follows this is 'proof' that other artist were Anti-Christ. These include the likes of the Beatles. Clearly, Yellow Submarine was all about Satan worship.
"Shock rocker Marilyn Manson, infamous for his dark stage presence and lyrics that glorify hate and violence, will use the Word as a weapon at his June 21 concert in Denver." Oh god! Weapon! Just like in video games! All video games are Satanic!! AHH!!
"Manson countered local protests against the show by saying he'll "balance" it with Bible readings - "so we can examine the virtues of wonderful 'Christian' stories of disease, murder, adultery, suicide and child sacrifice. Now that seems like entertainment to me," said Manson in a statement posted on his Web site." So, in maikng this page, you were taking a leaf out of Manson's book, were you?
"Citizens for Peace and Respect, led by a local youth pastor and supported by 21 churches, teens and a few families of Columbine victims, had asked that Manson cancel his appearance in Ozzfest at Mile High Stadium. According to the Denver Post, two death threats were e-mailed to the youth pastor this week, prompting a police report." Manson clearly ordered his fans to do this!
"Teens in the area plan to rally against Manson on June 20, have constructed www.nonmanson.com and have walked in protest at the state capitol to raise awareness among lawmakers." This doesn't prove anything other than that not everyone is a Manson fan.
"Manson has also stated that his Denver concert will be in honor of the two teenagers who were responsible for the deaths at Columbine, stating that they were the true heroes of Columbine." Yes, why don't we also kill all the Muslims! They support Bin Laden!
""I think he promotes suicide, and with him promoting suicide, he encourages people to kill as many people as they can before committing suicide -- very similar to what happened at Columbine," said Brian Rohrbough, whose son, Daniel, was killed." A prize for whoever can tell me hopw this is relevant.
Following this are a series of lawsuits filed against Manson. Either he was found guilty or charged. Either way, it's over. Live with what he's done and get on with your life.
"IN HIS OWN WORDS MANSON SAYS:
"I've always had a desire to be provocative and to make people think, but it wouldn't be any challenge for me just to be shocking. That is where it begins for me, not where it stops. And I could be much more shocking. I think I've adopted a sense of subtlety. I don't sit around wondering how I can make myself even stranger to the world. I've simply evolved into the monster I created, and I'm quite happy with it." USA Today, November 21, 2000
"There's an old saying - 'The devil is the church's best friend.' If Satan wasn't around, churches would go out of business. The same goes for conservatives or Christians, or whoever they might be. They need art because art is evil; art challenges beliefs. Because I'm a vocal spokesperson for that kind of activity, I am the devil to them." The New York Post November 17, 2000
"There's a lot of great stories and a lot of great values in the Holy Bible, and I actually relate to a lot of them. The character, the idea, or the part of my personality that I describe as Antichrist Superstar, is a lot like Lucifer in the Bible. Someone who was kicked out of heaven because he wanted to be God. I try to say in my own story: 'Well if it was told from his point of view, then would he still be the bad guy?'" Kerrang Magazine, December 14, 1996
This record [Mechanical Animals] was written on drugs about drugs, and it will likely be performed on drugs as well." Pulse Magazine, October, 1998" This section is simply quotes. They're all true and only blasphemous if you interpret them that way. Oh, and he takes drugs! Awful isn't it? Of course, he's the only musician anywere in the world to do that!
"Prodigious Preachings from the Pulpit
"We are our own wicked gods.... sadistic and constantly inflicting a slow demise."
Today's sermon: Tips for Surviving the End Times, from Our savior himself, the Reverend Marilyn Manson:
The time has come, it is quite clear... AntiChrist Superstar is here!
I appreciate your faith in our cause.
Right now, as a Family, as an Army, we are limited as a minority. Laws bind us. But it is important to remember: The law is only what is popular, not what's right or wrong. Marilyn Manson's Church of AntiChrist Superstar rejects conventional morality and societal standards. As misanthropes and throw-away kids, we will NOT submit to the mainstream: We will BECOME it. When WE become the majority, WE will decide who doesn't belong.
Assume your individuality. Read, watch, listen to, and do what you want. BUT BE WARNED! You cannot have this freedom at no cost: You must pay in responsibility. Enlightened brothers and sisters, FREE YOURSELVES! Die for your OWN sins. Sell your soul to YOURSELF: You'll make more money. Invest in YOU, and put the bible- belt- wearing- pro- life- red- neck- record- burning- fundamentalist- fag- bashing hypocrites out of business so they can wallow in their own self-made, feeble-minded Hell. Hallelujah motherf******!
There's a hurricane a-blowing, and just by knowing what you know, you have an advantage over the blind morons that surround you every day. However, not everyone can be saved. Civilize those you can and f*** the rest. There are too many people in this world. It is not our responsibility to be constantly cleaning up after the weak-minded. Nature will eventually run its course, and those too senseless to survive will fortunately be crushed beneath the wheels of our progress.
America should be very, very afraid. They have found it hard to accept the monster that they have created. The stupid ones who doubt me/you will surely be destroyed. I am the all-american AntiChrist. I have predicted the past; I am the accuser.
You are a slave. Do you think for a moment that you can ever really say or do what you want? You can't dream without fear of punishment, even if it is your own hypodermic guilt making you look to religion, drugs or suicide as an escape.Modern expression in TV, movies and music is without any stimulants. It is numb and safe, easy to sell, easy to digest and easy to forget. It's not really even suitable for kindergartners or the mentally handicapped. We are treated like soulless sub-animal house pets until we are old enough to drive or buy cigarettes. When we become consumers they pretend to give us an opinion. We are constantly shoveled milky mounds of unchallenging, moronic impotence disguised as entertainment, but really only designed to lower our standards and make us passive and content on being dumbed down. Why do we watch the things they give us on MTV or Jenny Jones or the 11 0clock news? We have been conditioned to have low expectations and our standards have become less than primitive. The illiterate apes that beat your ass in highschool for being a "fag" now sell you tuneless testosterone anthems of misogyny and pretend to be outsiders to a world that they were born to wear their ADIDASS-FILGERING uniforms in. And we buy it up, helplessly.Even Christ wouldn't kill himself for this pitiful America that hides under "christian values," and exonerates criminals when they remind the newsman that they too, beLIEve in god.The networks, record companies and movie studios are all afraid of what we have the power to become. Unlike them we have nothing to lose, and that's what makes us pure.It is time for their world to be destroyed. It is time for a new age, the Age of Horus. It is time for a new standard, a new canvas, and a new artist. We must forget this wasted generation and amputate it before the mind rots away with it. Paint it, record it, write it down before they kill you with their slow poisonous stupidity. Make yourself heard.This Internet is your middle finger to the universe, don't let them break it.F*ck their world.Let's make our own.The third and final BeastMarilyn Manson" This proves it. He's definatley a Satanist. Well done. Have a gold star.
"Christ and Christianity
Manson is well known for his outspoken comments, and acts, against Christ and the Christian Church. His recent album Holywood has a picture of a rotting man on a cross, and Manson often refers to himself as "Anti-Christ superstar". One writer said:
"Christianity is at the top of Marilyn's laundry list. And Antichrist Superstar, he says, is not only a direct indictment of Christianity's "weak value system", but a direct attempt to demolish the old structure, to "Bring on the apocalypse." (Alternative Press: February, 1997, Marilyn Manson, Artist of the Year, p. 44).
An observer at a Manson concert wrote the following:
"... the concert was filled with blasphemous acts such as: tearing a Bible in half and yelling out that we shall not be suppressed by the fasciousness of Christianism any longer." (Manson's Beautiful People by Nicole H., Gulf Coast American Family Association Website)
Another observer at a Manson concert wrote:
"Manson read from the Satanic bible and held a Satanic altar call in Lubbock, Texas....Throughout the concert, Manson led the crowd in various acts against the Church, against family and parents, and against Christ. (From eye-witness accounts, AFA Journal, April 1997).
What influence does this have on the fans who attend Manson’s concerts? One observer wrote:
"...fans and performers hurled obscenities like snowflakes in a blizzard." (These included an f-word barrage and profane variations of the names of God.) Security officers confiscated several knives and box cutting tools as well as bottles of alcohol from fans." (News-Register, Wheeling, WV, 2/16/97).
The Bible says:
"But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious, gossips, without self control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God." (2 Tim. 3:1-4). " It's his belief system. You're no better by having such a go at him. He doesn't like chrisitans, that's his choice. You don't like anyone who's not christian, that's your choice. You're both the same.
"EARLY YEARS ANDCHRISTIAN SCHOOL BACKGROUND:
Age 13 — Marilyn Manson (born Brian Warner) discovered 16 mm porno films, pornographic magazines, even bestiality photos, sexual toys in his grandfather's cellar.
Manson: "Hell to me was my grandfather's cellar." (First line in his autobiography.)
Manson: "Although I was disgusted and creeped out, my curiosity about my grandfather and his depravity still hadn't been satisfied."
Manson attended Christian school in Canton, Ohio for several years until two months into his Sophomore year when he quit to attend a public school after becoming rebellious toward Christianity telling his parents, "Everything I like, they're against."
CHRISTIAN SCHOOL YEARS
Manson attended Christian school in Canton, Ohio for several years until two months into his Sophomore year when he quit to attend a public school after becoming rebellious toward Christianity telling his parents, "Everything I like, they're against."
While attending Christian school, Manson was given numerous opportunities to accept Christ during school assemblies, but never did.
Manson: "When (the assembly speakers) were done, everyone would bow their heads in prayer. If anyone wasn't born again, the failed pastor leading the seminar would ask them to come on stage and hold hands and be saved. Every time I knew I should have walked up there, but I was too petrified to stand on stage in front of the entire school and too embarrassed to admit that I was morally, spiritually and religiously behind everybody else."
"Gradually, I began to resent Christian school and doubt everything I was told...The seeds of who I am now had been planted."
Manson switched to public school for his last three years.
Manson: "Christian school had prepared me well for public school. It defined the taboos, then held them away at arm's length, leaving me reaching for them in vain. As soon as I switched schools, it was all there for the taking -- sex, drugs, rock, the occult. I didn't even have to look for them: They found me." Proving that he didn't reject christianity. Christianity rejected him. Just because he was different.
"HEAVY METAL ROCK AND ROLL INFLUENCE ON MANSON
Manson says he became entrenched in rock and roll, especially hard rocker heavy metal groups like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue and Rush.
Manson writes that his father took him to see his first rock concert -- a KISS concert -- in 1979.
DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS
Manson: "The fantasy element of much of this (rock) music soon drew me to Dungeons & Dragons."
"Most of my education took place after class, when I escaped into a fantasy world -- immersed in role-playing games."" See, just a normal kid dong wat kids do.
"ANTON LAVEY AND SATANISM
Marilyn Manson was ordained as a Reverend in the Church of Satan, by its founder Anton LaVey.
Manson: "The day I became a Satanist also happened to be the day the allied forces of Christianity and conservativism began mobilizing against me."
Manson: "It makes a lot more sense to follow The Satanic Bible, written with twentieth-century humanity in mind, than a book that was written as a companion to a culture long since defunct."" This is correct. The Satanic bible is more up to date. I was baptised, my head was washed, not my brain.
"T-SHIRTS FROM THE MANSON WEBSITE
"I LOVE DRUGS" (front)"DRUGS LOVE ME" (back)
"SEX, DRUGS AND ROCK N ROLL.THE WAY GOD CREATED IT."" So what? He sells t-shirts with the word 'drugs' on them. Big deal. Also, god created everything didn't he? According to christianity, yes. So the second example is just true.
"MARILYN MANSON AND PUBLIC SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
Both alleged shooters responsible for the horrible deaths at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado were said to be rabid fans for repulsive shock rocker, Marilyn Manson. But this is not the first time that the name Marilyn Manson has been associated with death among teenagers.
Last summer Manson’s name was mentioned often at Senate Commerce Committee hearings held by Sam Brownback, R-Kan. Testimony about Manson's stage behavior prompted Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn. to say this band was "the sickest group ever promoted by a mainstream record company."
Raymond Kuntz, a North Dakota man, blames Manson or his teenage son's suicide, testifying that his son was listening to a Manson song when he killed himself.
Kuntz told the Senators that Manson's music was "fearful" and "frightening" and said that "the lyrics of this song contributed directly to my son's death." Kuntz called Manson's music a hand grenade that "went off in (his son's) mind."
In Edinboro, Penn., an eighth-grade student, Andrew Wurst, allegedly shot and killed a teacher at a school dance. One of Wurst's friends told ABC News, "He had, like 'Marilyn Manson' and "666" written all over his binder and everything, so — and then we got to be friends, and we liked Marilyn Manson, and so I gave him the nickname Satan, and it kind of stuck."
Last year, another Marilyn Manson fan, Mike Carneal killed three students at his Paducah, Kentucky high school.
Texas authorities last fall connected the stabbing death of a teenager by his friend as being inspired by a Marilyn Manson video.
Last fall five teenage boys who dressed in black and listen to Marilyn Manson nearly carried out a plan to kill teachers and classmates at a Burlington, Wisconsin public school. " Everyone points out bad examples. I've never killed anyone.
This section is then repeated. Maybe that's how long it takes for rednecks to understand it.
Here ends the page. If you would like to see this lie for yourself, go to
http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/manson.htm however, make sure you use this handy guide as a companion. It stops you from being brainwashed.
Thankyou and goodnight.
